Sarah Smiles

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  Confidentiality and the elders.

  by LtCmd.Lore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while talking to a jw elder: if you specifically state that you are speaking to him as and elder, and that you want the conversation to be classified.

  is he legally required to keep it secret, like a church confessional or doctor/patient type thing?.

  lore.

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  Sarah Smiles

  People can laugh all they want, but yes I think you can take them to court! It a breach of a verbal contract. Every J.W. knows what goes on behind the elders room should stay between the elders and the publisher.

  Someone will catch on!
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  When you were a dub, did you shun DF/DA'd people?

  by exwitless in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  actually, in my 14 years as a dub, it only came up with one person in our cong.

  who got pregnant out of wedlock (and used drugs during pregnancy).

  she was df'd but still came to most meetings.

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  Sarah Smiles

  Yes, I am sorry to say I shunned a very good friend of the family, Sharon Winfrey. I was taught to smile at the person and greet them with love when they got reinstated. It was like what ever happen was over and done.

  Now, that I went through the process, some people take it too far! They would hide their children's eyes so as not to look at me. I found them very harsh. As far as forgiving, I do not think I ever forgot when a J.W. was Dfd.
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  When you were a dub, did you shun DF/DA'd people?

  by exwitless in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  actually, in my 14 years as a dub, it only came up with one person in our cong.

  who got pregnant out of wedlock (and used drugs during pregnancy).

  she was df'd but still came to most meetings.

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  Sarah Smiles

  Yes, I am sorry to say I shunned a very good friend of the family, Sharon Winfrey. I was taught to smile at the person and greet them with love when they got reinstated. It was like what ever happen was over and done.

  Now, that I went through the process, some people take it too far! They would hide their children's eyes so as not to look at me. I found them very harsh. As far as forgiving, I do not think I ever forgot when a J.W. was Dfd.
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  Does JV risk bankruptcy?

  by TheNaturalStep in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as i have heard they had to pay really much cash to those who sued them "silent lamb".

  so my question is, are there any other individuals or groups who are about to sue jv?

  and if so could that cause jv to go bankrupt.

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  Sarah Smiles

  I only wish they would loose everything, but they probably have enough money to settle every case until the great tribulation.
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  Religions similar to JWs.

  by LtCmd.Lore in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know of any religions that are very similar to jehovahs witnesses?.

  it tends to come up in discussions with them a lot, they like to think that they are the only ones that don't believe in hell, the trinity, that jesus died on a stake, that they won't go to heaven, or stuff like that.

  i could probaby just prove them wrong, but that would take forever and it would be a lot easier to just say: "you're not as unique as you think...".

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  Sarah Smiles

  Catholic church has a new section that does not believe in Trinity. A lot of religion believe in the Hell doctrine. I still wonder about Revelation second death is it just a common grave or does the pit seem not so common grave?

  I could say something about all the off shoots of the Bible Students but that would be boring.

  I think I will stick with the Catholic church, after all the WTBTS borrowed most of their stuff including the fall of Jerusalem. What do you think about the non trinity section of the Catholic church? I guess the J.W. will not be able to slam them anymore on the Trinity topic. :-) I am soooo happy about that one! smerk!

  I dont even think the WTBTS knows about it yet!

  Hmmm, most other religion believe in all members partaking. I think they are unique in that topic. Perhaps you can find a satanic religion that does not believe in partaking like the J.W.!

  Good Night!
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  After being reinstated are you allowed to . . .

  by Lady Lee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  talk to other jws about why you had been dfed?.

  i have heard some pretty amazing things about what i supposedly did.

  and i recall the rumors that went on about other jws who were dfed.

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  Sarah Smiles

  If the rumors are a lie tell them to stop gossiping and mind their own business. Elders and their wives are the worst! Why do you care?
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  Let the stones cry out!

  by WTWizard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how often have you heard the phrase "if we don't preach, the stones would cry out"?

  this is in regard to the ministry.. what i cannot figure out is (1) this is so urgent that we have to be out 18+ hours a day doing it, (2) we have to endure all sorts of conditions to accomplish our ministry, and (3) we are supposed to get it perfect so people can be drawn in.

  so, why don't the stones get to help us out?

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  Sarah Smiles

  If you woulds look at how the J.W. really believe about the stone crying out it would change your concept. They state "If it were not for Russell the stones would surely cry out." I think that is strange compared that that in NWT it says in Luke 19:

  37 As soon as he got near the road down the Mount of Olives all the multitude of the disciples started to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice concerning all the powerful works they had seen, 38 saying: “Blessed is the One coming as the King in Jehovah’s name! Peace in heaven, and glory in the highest places!” 39 However, some of the Pharisees from the crowd said to him: “Teacher, rebuke your disciples.” 40 But in reply he said: “I tell YOU , If these remained silent, the stones would cry out.”

  The stones did not need to cry out because Jesus did not rebuke the multitude. WTBTS claims it was Russell who was not silent insead of the multitude. Let me guess Russell is modern day fullfillment of the multitude. Am I missing something? It sounds like it is taking something away from Jesus and replacing it with dogma about Russell.

  Why would followers of Rutherford,who kicked out pyramidology, care about Russell?
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  APOLOGIES by real JW's: JW's are NOT False Prophets

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw1983 - jws are not false prophets .

  jehovahs witnesses, in their eagerness for jesus second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect.

  because of this, some have called them false prophets.

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  Sarah Smiles

  Jehovah's Witnesses claim they are last day prophets going door to door read your "Revelation It's Grand Climax Is At Hand"
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  Arguments against Disfellowshipping

  by TheListener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like a simple step by step explanation that refutes the disfellowshipping policy as practiced by jehovah's witnesses.. obviously, i don't agree with the policy but i have had trouble making my explanations clear and straightforward.. any help would be appreciated..

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  Sarah Smiles

  God made laws to protect humans from muder,rape,and harm to children. Rape of a child hell put the evil one out of the churches! And do not let them back into the church.
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  144,000

  by TIMBOB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is not so much a question as it is to make sure that i am thinking correctly.

  the witnesses believe that 144,000 would rule as kings and priests in heaven and the end would not come until all of the 144,000 were in heaven, correct?

  so, if this were the case and the witnesses kept a census of how many partook each year and are still doing that today, that means that back in the early 1900s they must of known that all 144,000 were not yet in heaven.

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  Sarah Smiles

  They can not go symbolic until after all 8,800 are dead. To think there will be know one left to partake! Oh well I will not be alive.